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So from a perspective of being descriptiveif Chechen is primarily written using the Cyrillic script, then Chechen entries on Wiktionary must include Cyrillic spellings. If you think the source be wrong, can you find an reliable alternative that supports what you wrote?

CodeCat, if your use of "ergative" is in reference to the definition Ruakh gives here, I cede the point. I was taught that these set forms were from the regular formal adjectival forms, as reflected in the current reference. In the meantime, it looks like this bit of yours is key: Depending on context, the object might be the "I" in a passive role with the agent left unstated, but the verb itself is inherently transitive.

Here, the case marking on the pronouns shows unambiguously which word is the subject and which is the object.

I did not remove it from the page -- removing comments entirely is generally not considered a good thing was that it was based on my initial misunderstanding about who "they" were.

Note that there is no similar causative for such verbs, precisely because there is no semantically intransitive sense. These words are fundamentally intransitive, where the modern EN transitive uses have developed from a causative sense. I noticed you adding lang and xml: I already put a Chechen list in Latin alphabet on Appendix talk: Many languages form a mediopassive through reflexivity such that he melts is the same as he melts himself.

He cooks the eggs. In a sense, ergative verbs without an object are implicitly passive, so the passive formation is redundant: So in that case, the transitive and the ergative sense are more or less equally used.

I would hazard that this overlapping use of "ergative" might be one such example. Similarly for freezesinkgrowetc. On the other hand he melts carries no such implication, it is as if the action occurred "by itself". Such an action that occurs by itself without a clear agent is called mediopassive or middle voiceand has a very strong connection with the reflexive.

If you can show that Chechen is being written in the Roman script, and with consistent spellings, and in a way that meets our Criteria for Inclusionthen please bring up such criteria in the discussion in the Beer Parlor.

This could also be analyzed as a kind of passive construction where the actor carrying out the transitive action is left unstated. If you prefer, we can continue it here, so could you cut it and paste it here?Chechen language [].

Eirikr, you wrote: " In other words, I don't think you'll encounter much opposition here at Wiktionary, if you decide to create a Swadesh list for Chechen that uses the Latin alphabet.

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